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Don’t some types of killing only get 15 years? It seems strange that that would be the sentence for harassing four people. (Not to minimize–it was serious harassment and probably life altering for some of those women.) And that’s 15 years after he pleaded guilty. It was more punishment than the prosecutor wanted (but prosecutors ask for more punishment than they actually think is fair, since that’s how the system works). So the prosecutor asked for 11 years, probably thinking 5 years was really a fair puni
Agreed. This is a vindictive, possibly politically motivated sentence which was much more than even the prosecutor’s already intentionally excessive request.
It can be reasonable for the law to make an example of someone to deter future offenders
It can be reasonable for the law to make an example of someone to deter future offenders
Not really. While my own morality is more about consequences, I expect the law to act based on law and justice (and precedent, etc.). The law is not consequentialist.
It can be reasonable for the law to make an example of someone to deter future offenders
Not really. While my own morality is more about consequences, I expect the law to act based on law and justice (and precedent, etc.). The law is not consequentialist.
It can be reasonable for the law to make an example of someone to deter future offenders
It can be reasonable for the law to make an example of someone to deter future offenders
Not really. While my own morality is more about consequences, I expect the law to act based on law and justice (and precedent, etc.). The law is not consequentialist.
Indeed, I agree. On top of that, nowadays we can’t even tell if TFA is a hoax or if it really happened. As far as I am concerned, links to the pictures please or it didn’t happen!
Politically motivated, you say?
Please enlighten us on which party supports cyberstalking and harassing women.
I don’t know which party supports cyberstalking, but the trumpism party definitely supports harassing women.
Yeah, that’s messed up. My brother and I have tried unsuccessfully to get our other family members to recognize it and kick the guy out of politics for good, but that’s become virtually impossible given the unbelievably corrupt and criminal way Hillary and the Democrats immediately, before he even took office, used the FSB, then corrupted the FBI, CIA, U.S. Congress impeachment powers TWICE, the IRS, all the MSM, all of social media, and virtually the whole of the government in a deeply destructive attempt
No, I literally said he isn’t my candidate. Three year old reading comprehension much?
Politically motivated, you say?
Please enlighten us on which party supports cyberstalking and harassing women.
Politically motivated, you say?
Please enlighten us on which party supports cyberstalking and harassing women.
Politically motivated doesn’t mean parties, though the people who want to repeal due process (and have forced college campuses to do so for men in sexual assault accusation cases) and persecute men are all in one part, since you ask.
In this case, the judge clearly wanted to use the law to set an example, by applying punishment unequally and unfairly. It’s not ok!
Probably more to do with state line crossing misdeeds as the FBI got in on it. More akin to a mail fraud or transporting across state lines , that’s why the long sentence, he deserved it.
To doubly emphasize, I’d argue that U.S. District Judge Thomas Barber raped a harasser by using the perp for his own purposes, against all conventions and obviously against his will.
Just how fucked up are you?
… Then the judge used up this guy’s life to improve his or her own record. Which is a lot like rape.
… Then the judge used up this guy’s life to improve his or her own record. Which is a lot like rape.
I’m trying to imagine a more ignorant and offensive (as well as unsubstantiated and presumptive) opinion to have on this topic. But I can’t. Co-opting the term “rape” for what can only be seen as incel/MRS reasons is the most vile thing I’ve seen someone do in a long time; even on the internet. Please tell me you are capable of feeling shame for this.
That sounds like an argument for increasing rapists’ punishments
15 years is far beyond the punishment called for. Rapists, even poor rapists who can’t afford a lawyer, don’t get that.
15 years is far beyond the punishment called for. Rapists, even poor rapists who can’t afford a lawyer, don’t get that.
Rape, as disgusting as it is, is a single act of violence, whereas this gentleman here committed a long term act of threats, intimidation and harassment. Quite likely the duration of his criminal activity did him in for good (or at least the better part of 15 years).
Rape, as disgusting as it is, is a single act of violence
Never heard of woman being raped over a series of days, weeks, or months, sometimes by muliple men, have you? Would you like to try again?
What even are you arguing for? If a woman is raped multiple times, the rapist is charged with multiple counts of rape. Are you so stupid that you are arguing against that?
The sentence is also consider that there are 4 victims. There is something the judge knows that no one here is considering, the development of the human brain. Young people, into their mid twenties, are still developing psychological maturity. It is fairly ‘normal’ for young people to make mistakes as they continue to mature. The court tends to be more lenient on younger people that maybe made a mis-step as part of growing up and will consider the current predicament a lesson for the future. After some age,
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15 years is less than 3 years per count.
Now do a more accurate comparison and find the sentencing for someone convicted of raping 4 women repeatedly for 10 years (the same length of time that the cyberstalking went on in this case).
That cat doesn’t deserve 15 years. Absolutely unjust.
He tried to hire someone to rape a 14 year old member of his own family so he could watch.
My ex-wife was raped by her mother’s boyfriend when she was 14. She was still having flashbacks and nightmares 13 years later when we divorced.
Consider that if he wanted to do that to a family member he would probably want to do that to any 14 year old who caught his eye. What if the 14 year old he managed to hire someone to rape was your sister, favorite cousin, or your best friend’s daughter?
You think his sentence was unjust. Fine, that’s your opinion.
My opinion is they should have shot SOB. I’ve seen the long term damage people like him can do first hand.
Clearly, you are much too close. I feel for you, man, but YOUR opinion is the one that can’t be trusted.
Depends on where it is. Smaller towns are more likely to see the cops respond to most things. Bigger cities, less likely. Cities like Los Angeles, unless it’s something really taboo like rape, murder, or having a utility knife in your pocket, forget about the police doing anything at all.
Hell, I ran a red light right in front of a cop car once and all they did was follow me really closely for like 30 seconds before driving off. This was like a year ago and nothing ever came of it.
But but defund the police!!!
Seriously though, that pd in Florida had more than enough assets to deal with the problem. They refused to do so out of sloth and incompetence. They easily could have called in state police for assistance.
The perp was sentenced in November 2021
Yeah it’s the reporting that’s happening now. It is a little late though.
Yeah it’s the reporting that’s happening now. It is a little late though.
Yeah it’s the reporting that’s happening now. It is a little late though.
A little? Was there a legal reason for delay in reporting that long?
Even with the dull roar of COVID ongoing, this story isn’t exactly ‘slow news day’ fodder.
You are disgusting. The photos are a sexual thing. The intent is people who are fans of the beauty looking at them. That is why the sites have names like *only fans*. Her father was sexually harassed by being forced to see them, as was everyone else. This guy is a multiple sex offender for doing that.
Imagine if someone drugged you, then carried you around shoving your genitals in the face of non consenting people, then tried to blame you for having genitals at all. That would be your reflection.
What she’s angry about is not that the photos leaked
What she’s angry about is not that the photos leaked
Yes she is.
You’re just a fauxtistic nerd, with pretend no-understanding of human feelings. Shut the fuck up, and kill yourself.
Why?
To me it seems brief compared to potential lifelong impacts, career and income impacts which compound lifelong for the victims.
If it were 15 years per victim it would make more sense to me. But this is just two and half per. If someone did something to you which drove away clients, reduced your earnings, denied you job opportunities, often without your awareness of the motivation for the decision, resulting in your annual earnings being perhaps 10% lower every single year… And he tried to hire someone to rape his 14 year old relative!?
Every time you explain yourself more, it shows how much you identify with the criminal. You need mental help, and therapy. Please go get them before you end up being a criminal yourself.
LOL, you can’t cancel me by association. Not gonna work, bud!
“Fuck around, find out.” Isn’t that what you guys tell the rest of us?
Who are “you guys,” and why are you trying to personalize this?
15 years seems incredibly excessive.
15 years seems incredibly excessive.
Personally, I’d love to see him hang. (A note to you youngins, that’s an outmoded form of barbaric capital punishment. Execution.)
Baring that, maybe give him 60 – 80 years in prison.
But then, I’m an evil old right wing white guy, a big fan of the “carceral state”, etc. So I would think that.
(Also, I believe than women actually exist, so giving them special extra protection is fine with me. And I’m not even a biologist! [usatoday.com])
It seems incredibly excessive compared to others who serve a 15 or 20 year sentence for repeatedly abusing a child.
On the other hand, 3×5 years is not incredibly excessive, however child abusers, robbers and thieves should likewise serve the Nx20 years then for each count of abusing a child, robbing a place or stealing a thing and not be allowed to sit out multiple sentences in parallel.
There’s no need to speculate on the appropriate total sentence, since we already know it. 11 years, the already excessive (by design) number from the prosecution. You can usually roughly cut those in half to see what judges, acting impartially and with not political axe to grind, tend to land at.
It is possible the judge somehow saw a particularly egregious set of circumstances that even the prosecution could not see that would warrant such a punitive sentence, but that seems very unlikely.
And for all thos
“…were on 4chan, a lawless website that allows users to post anonymously about topics as varied as music and white supremacy…”
“…were on 4chan, a lawless website that allows users to post anonymously about topics as varied as music and white supremacy…”
I really don’t think we’re going to uncover some secret about Adolf using a wicked Nazi rock band to brainwash the masses back in the day, so maybe music isn’t the best example of what would be considered ‘varied’ content on 4chan? Almost makes it sound like every legitimate music site is doing something wrong by merely talking about it online.
When are people going to acknowledge that the police are crap at their job?
I was one of the victims on BIX when a person lost his mental wheels and started posting hate from fake accounts opened with “hacked” credit cards. I was told I’d be cut up and fed to his dog after being raped with his knife. I’m more stubborn about this than stupid for sticking around to help catch the critter. He end, as it turns out, was at his own hands after he lost his Korean wife and work visa in the US over a pattern of credit card abuse. He was brought down by the Secret Service treasury people not the FBI or anybody else. There were no other laws they could apply.
This story’s conclusion leaves an unbelievably warm feeling in me. That bastard earned far more than a mere 15 years as far as I am concerned. This kind of thing really changes your life even if the perp commits suicide a few years later. I’ve lived 38 years wondering when and how the world would poop on me again. I wish I could have lived with a brighter outlook on life.
{o.o}
…but we live in a fucked up system when a guy gets 10 years for posting/blackmailing women with nude pics that were consensually taken while they were adults, while at the same time a dude gets 180 DAYS for ACTUALLY raping 4 and 9 years old girls.
One might almost suspect there are different standards for harm against pretty white girls.
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Having had the chance to observe their behaviour in court, I think it’s fair to say a lot of cops are lazy, corrupt, stupid, thuggish, violent, stupid, incompetent, stupid, fascist bullies. And did I mention that they’re stupid?
For those who say most cops are decent, hard-working and honest, I’ll just say this: when a bad cop breaks the law and other “good” cops look the other way or actually assist in the coverup, they no longer get to call themselves good cops. Aiding and abetting is a crime. When you
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